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What's going on? - NewYorkjoe - 10-08-2013
The Navy Yard shooter was black, and so was the dental hygenist who tried to crash the White House. Black people don't DO that kind of stuff! Except for that guy in Atlanta (and I'm not 100% certain he killed ALL those kids), serial killers are all white, middle-aged, loners (luckily I dodged that one). Is there something in the environment or American society that is now causing black people to act like crazy, white people?
Inquring minds want to know!
NYj
What's going on? - Helen - 10-09-2013
Is this a sick joke thread or something?
The D.C. Snipers were black and they were serial killers.
What's going on? - NewYorkjoe - 10-09-2013
Well, you're right, in a sense. You could look upon them as serial killers, because they killed more than one person, but when I think of serial killers, I'm thinking of Zodiac, the Green River Killer, etc., who did not commit their murders as a public display, attempted to hide their crime, Committed murder close and personal, like the BTK killer (bind-torture-kill). To me, that's a serial killer and it has to be a loner, not a team.
And, no, this is not a sick joke thread or something. I don't consider murder a humorous subject.
NYj
What's going on? - Tony H - 10-09-2013
There is not a long list of black serial killers. That could be because they don't get caught or perhaps the FBI profile insists they are white males in their mid to late thirties with mommy issues and a penchant for bed-wetting.
That is what happens when you build a profile for a specific criminal sect. You try to pigeonhole every serial killer into that specific profile. That does not mean that there are no active black serial killers, it just means they have not been captured, nor has the "profile" been update to reflect this accordingly.
There is a huge difference between serial killers and spree killers. Even gang-related drive-by shootings are considered a spree killing but because that act is, for the most part, confined to ghettos and out of sight of white America, it seldom makes the news.
The Navy Yard shooting was in a high profile area, so of course it got media coverage.
The woman who was shot and killed after attempting to run through a white house barricade got media coverage because of the target and the incident coming so soon on the heels of the Navy Yard shooting.
More importantly though, the people who comitted these crimes were suffering from major mental health issues. They could easily have been any race, as behavioral health issues are not race/class specific and can affect anyone. The man who cannibalized a homeless man was black, but when it was first reported everyone thought he was white. Same with the DC Snipers. Why?
The common denominator is not the race of the individual commiting the crime, it is the deterioration of their mental health. And it is not deteriorating because they are black or something in the black culture is in the midst of a paradigm shift, it deteriorated because sometimes it just happens to people, regardless of the color of their skin.
It happened because they are human.
What's going on? - NewYorkjoe - 10-09-2013
I think serial killers have lost their humanity. It is our empathy for fellow human beings that makes us human. Sociopaths have none.
NYj
What's going on? - Tony H - 10-09-2013
NewYorkjoe Wrote:I think serial killers have lost their humanity. It is our empathy for fellow human beings that makes us human. Sociopaths have none.
NYj
Well, that is what you think, and you are entitled to that opinion. I simply meant, physiologically they are categorized as humans and because that is the case they are subjected to the same issues, mental and physical, as anyone else.
What's going on? - Helen - 10-09-2013
Tony H Wrote:There is not a long list of black serial killers. That could be because they don't get caught or perhaps the FBI profile insists they are white males in their mid to late thirties with mommy issues and a penchant for bed-wetting.
That is what happens when you build a profile for a specific criminal sect. You try to pigeonhole every serial killer into that specific profile. That does not mean that there are no active black serial killers, it just means they have not been captured, nor has the "profile" been update to reflect this accordingly.
There is a huge difference between serial killers and spree killers. Even gang-related drive-by shootings are considered a spree killing but because that act is, for the most part, confined to ghettos and out of sight of white America, it seldom makes the news.
The Navy Yard shooting was in a high profile area, so of course it got media coverage.
The woman who was shot and killed after attempting to run through a white house barricade got media coverage because of the target and the incident coming so soon on the heels of the Navy Yard shooting.
More importantly though, the people who comitted these crimes were suffering from major mental health issues. They could easily have been any race, as behavioral health issues are not race/class specific and can affect anyone. The man who cannibalized a homeless man was black, but when it was first reported everyone thought he was white. Same with the DC Snipers. Why?
The common denominator is not the race of the individual commiting the crime, it is the deterioration of their mental health. And it is not deteriorating because they are black or something in the black culture is in the midst of a paradigm shift, it deteriorated because sometimes it just happens to people, regardless of the color of their skin.
It happened because they are human.
Agree. I think that by stereotyping whites as crazy serial killers is no different than stereotyping blacks as uneducated gangbangers.
People kill everyday, however its only important to certain people when their demographic is the victim. Spree killing vs. serial killing? Its all symantics and what makes people feel better. Blacks kill each other every day in war torn nations in Africa, yet they are not categorized as serial killers, nor do most people in America (regardless of their race) seem to care because well "its not happening in America" so it doesn't matter.
Mental health is the real issue. Not what is in the water in the black community or whatever the OP was trying to say (perhaps it was meant to be humours, but I did not see it that way).
What's going on? - Helen - 10-09-2013
how is the list a "racist rant"? Is the information in the list true and factual? If the answer is yes, I do not see how it can be considered "racist" unless you feel it is simply because it points out the names of black people.
What's going on? - NewYorkjoe - 10-09-2013
Helen, if you think I was sterotyping all whites as crazy serial killers, you're as mistaken as thinking that serial killers could be a subject suitable for humor.
Nyj
What's going on? - Helen - 10-09-2013
One can never tell with you, Sir. You've made plenty of uncouth comments and "jokes" in the past, so it is hard to decipher what you mean most of the time.
And when did I use the word "all"? Please do not put words in my mouth.