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LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - colburn0004 - 01-30-2009

Maggers Wrote:Yes, Daniel Farraday, the physicist. Last season, in a night scene on the beach at the survivors' camp on the Island, Charlotte was testing Daniel Farraday's memory and it wasn't good. In fact, Daniel said it was getting worse. Then the whole rest of The Constant episode unfolded and ended with Daniel thumbing excitedly through his diary/journal and finding the notes he had left for himself say DESMOND HUME IS MY CONSTANT.

Not sure what you are confused about.

I think he was asking because in your messege you first talk about miles, it seemed like you were talking about miles when you were talking about the cards.

But I think Charlotte is experiencing something different from what Faraday was going throught because if it was the same wouldnt everyone else be going through it? Or at least Sawyer and Miles as they went through the islands field that seems to mess people up? Sawyer may have not gone far enough when he was on the helicopter but Miles definitely went through it.


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Maggers - 01-30-2009

colburn0004 Wrote:I think he was asking because in your messege you first talk about miles, it seemed like you were talking about miles when you were talking about the cards.
Yes, I've already corrected my many posts. Thanks.


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Brian - 01-30-2009

colburn0004 Wrote:But I think Charlotte is experiencing something different from what Faraday was going throught because if it was the same wouldnt everyone else be going through it? Or at least Sawyer and Miles as they went through the islands field that seems to mess people up? Sawyer may have not gone far enough when he was on the helicopter but Miles definitely went through it.

Could it be what Charolotte is going through is because she's female and because she was born on the island? Similar to what happens to the pregnant woman that were experimented on.


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Maggers - 01-30-2009

Brian Wrote:Could it be what Charolotte is going through is because she's female and because she was born on the island? Similar to what happens to the pregnant woman that were experimented on.

I'm curious to know why you think the pregnant women were experimented on? Well I guess they were, in a manner of speaking, but it wasn't just for the sake of experimenting. They were trying to solve their fatal problem and it sounded like they tried a variety of solutions,

When I think of a group of people being "experimented on" I think of Mengele and how he did awful things just because he could and to see how much the human body could bear.

I always got the feeling on the Island that they were really trying to solve the serious problem of pregnancies being fatal, a death knell for the poor women who had the misfortune to get pregnant in the Island.


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Aprilis - 01-31-2009

Maggers Wrote:Wow, that's a great notion and I nodded my head in agreement when I read it. But if it was an H bomb that imploded along with the hatch, wouldn't they all be dead?


I dont know enough about H bombs to know the effects burying one would have but when he said bury it the only thing I could think of was that button. The button was pushed to release pressure that built up and needed to be released every 108 minutes.
But Dharma wouldnt have gotten to the island until 20 years later.
Why were Dharma people hitting that button? Did they build the hatch too close to it and thus they then had to start pushing the button?

no matter how many questions they answer we can always come up with more Smile


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Sigokat - 01-31-2009

Well I just watched Jughead...another decent episode....better then Expose LOL

Did you guys honestly NOT see the Widmore being an "Other" angle back in The Shape of Things to Come? Seriously, it was pretty obvious. There is also speculation that he may have turned the FDW and that is why he cannot get back. However, I don't necessarily prescribe to that idea.

Nestor Carbonell has that guyliner look in everything he is in. I think it is just something with his features. He doesn't specifically wear guyliner for just this show. Now perhaps he could be tied into the supposed Egyptian theme, however I hope it doesn't go that way...I'm not too keen on the whole Egyptian theory or the Atlantis theory...but that's just me.

One thing I did enjoy about this episode was seeing John Locke back in action...even though he did look like he was about to cry when Richard didn't recognize him...even though Richard TOLD him he wouldn't. Good move with the Jacob line too, John! And I like how we found out it was John himself that sent Richard to 1956 to witness his birth...which would lead Richard to want to recruit him, hence his follow-on visits to John during his childhood.

As to Ben and Widmore? Here's my theory. Since Widmore is on the Island in 1954 and supposedly leaves the Island sometime after the 1980s (1980 is the time stamp for the Dharma videos) I imagine Charles Widmore is in fact the father of Annie...Ben's childhood girlfriend. Ben gets Annie pregnant out of wedlock and Charles takes Annie off the Island to get her away from Ben...or she dies during childbirth (The Island punishing her and Ben for getting pregnant) and Charles leaves because he has lost faith in the Island to save his daughter. I am in NO WAY saying Penny is Annie...just that Annie could be a previous daughter of Widmore. Of course there are loopholes...like why would Charles want to get back to an Island that took his daughter...so I'm not 100% convinced.

I've been convinced that Juliet is still an Other...and when she walked behind Sawyer with the machete I half expected her to put the blade to his neck. I still don't trust her completely...she may still be working for Ben.


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Sigokat - 01-31-2009

Hmmm...I just realized an error in my Widmore being Annie's father theory. Widmore is an Other whereas Annie is a Dharma kid.

It would still work if say Widmore left the Others to join Dharma or was a spy for the Others within Dharma.

Its a stretch, but nothing is out of the equation on LOST.


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Brian - 01-31-2009

Maggers Wrote:I'm curious to know why you think the pregnant women were experimented on? Well I guess they were, in a manner of speaking, but it wasn't just for the sake of experimenting. They were trying to solve their fatal problem and it sounded like they tried a variety of solutions,

When I think of a group of people being "experimented on" I think of Mengele and how he did awful things just because he could and to see how much the human body could bear.

I always got the feeling on the Island that they were really trying to solve the serious problem of pregnancies being fatal, a death knell for the poor women who had the misfortune to get pregnant in the Island.

It was just the impression I got from what Juliet had said and the flash backs of women giving birth and dying despite what was done to try and save them. I'm no medical person, but if just 1 or 2 women die like that, you would think having kids would get banned real quick on the island. I could be forgetting something, so fill me in if you have more info.


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Maggers - 01-31-2009

Brian Wrote:.... having kids would get banned real quick on the island. ...
I don't think anyone in the world can ban pregnancy without enforcing sterilization. As far as I know, that was not an option ever mentioned on LOST. To ban pregnancy, you've got to stop sperm on its journey to the egg through abstinence, sterilization, or birth control and we know that birth control is not 100% effective. Once you ban births, you sound the death knell for your society.

For instance, Ben tried his best to kept his late daughter from hanging out with her late boyfriend for fear of her getting pregnant. Yet still they stayed together and could very easily have become pregnant, but bullets put an end to that worry.


LOST Season 5 *Spoiler Edition* - Maggers - 01-31-2009

sigokat Wrote:..she may still be working for Ben.

Oh hell, everyone on this show eventually winds up working for Ben. LOL