Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:I've never met a Flat-Earther, but I'd certainly like to hear the rap.

What it comes down to is, you haven't yet experienced the true weirdness. I have. It really does change your views.

For example:

Back in 1969, my friend John Manno took photos (he was a professional photographer) of a "haunted house" called Clinton Court right here on West 46th Street. I was with him when he took the photos. We went back to his place on West 47th. I helped him develop the film. And, plain as day, there were faces on the negatives where no one was, when he took the shots. They were clearer when we made prints. I was with John every minute from the shoot to his darkroom when we developed the film. There was no monkey business. I give my oath on that.

In 1970, I was with my friend Mike Campbell in Flushing. We were listening to some tapes recorded at a Staten Island college for ESP tests he took. I raised my head to make a comment when this old-fashioned ironing board he had leaning against the wall flew--and I do mean FLEW--across to the opposite wall. So hard the folded-up bottom legs of the board dented the wall they hit. Niether of us was near that board.

So how do you figure?

Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:I've never met a Flat-Earther, but I'd certainly like to hear the rap.

What it comes down to is, you haven't yet experienced the true weirdness. I have. It really does change your views.

For example:

Back in 1969, my friend John Manno took photos (he was a professional photographer) of a "haunted house" called Clinton Court right here on West 46th Street. I was with him when he took the photos. We went back to his place on West 47th. I helped him develop the film. And, plain as day, there were faces on the negatives where no one was, when he took the shots. They were clearer when we made prints. I was with John every minute from the shoot to his darkroom when we developed the film. There was no monkey business. I give my oath on that.

Quote:In 1970, I was with my friend Mike Campbell in Flushing. We were listening to some tapes recorded at a Staten Island college for ESP tests he took. I raised my head to make a comment when this old-fashioned ironing board he had leaning against the wall flew--and I do mean FLEW--across to the opposite wall. So hard the folded-up bottom legs of the board dented the wall they hit. Neither of us was near that board.

So how do you figure?

KRW Wrote:I've experienced similier instances. Hell, I photographed one. But I just can't draw the parallel that a creature like Bigfoot should be classified with these entity's. I think he's flesh and blood, and verrrrrryyy reclusive. Smart man.

Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Let's see, Ken!

But let's consider--what does the creature =eat=? Gorillas can be tracked by their feeding grounds. They eat hearty, and the physical evidence is there for all to see.

And, to my reading, no one has =ever= seen more than more than one Bigfoot at a time. Nor has any observer reported seeing a baby Bigfoot.

KRW Wrote:If I find it I'll post it. It became lost when I switched computers.

You're right, but if you saw scat in the woods, could you tell me 100% truthfully it wasn't a bear? I'd imagine they would have a similar diet.

And there has been accounts of sightings of several ata time. Memory doesn't serve me well, but there was a story of some minors that were attacked in shed from several different angles. The supposed Bigfoot were throwing big rocks at them.

And I remember another tale about a camper that was abducted in his sleeping bag and was taken to what he called "a family" of Bigfoot. He even mentioned seeing young Bigfoot in the clan. If I remember correctly, he escaped by giving the Male Bigfoot some tobacco and ran while he was puking.

They are story's, as with all sightings, and so I take them as such. But no one can explain some of the totems done by Inuit Indian. Plus some of the tales Indians have that could be dated way back. Interesting stuff.

Ken Valentine Wrote:Your oath, fine, but what about his oath? Have you never heard of double exposures? Take a low-light snap of somebody's face, and then take another photo of something else. The phinal photo comes out looking like it has a ghost face on it.

I used to take ghost pictures with my little box Brownie when I was a kid. Only I did it in fun. It works best when the camera is set on a tripod: take a half light exposure with someone standing there, and then take another exposure (again half light) after the person has gone. You get a nice photo of someone, and can see the background right through them. It's an old photographic trick, but people are still fooled by it.

I answered the first one, I have no idea about the second. It could be a set-up. I don't know.

Ken V.

Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Certainly you can hoax up photos. But there would have been no point in this case. John was as amazed as I was when we took the negatives out of the soup. He didn't try to make money from them. The only place they appeared was a little zine I co-edited back then. Gratis.

Ken Valentine Wrote:He could have been having a little "fun" with you. Ever think of that?

Ken V.

Ken Valentine Wrote:He could have been having a little "fun" with you. Ever think of that?

Ken V.

KRW Wrote:Perhaps it was one of those "you had to be there" experiances. I've had a few.