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Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - Alvin Fox - 01-18-2009
One thing I don't like about Brian Lumley is his 'new' short story collections that contain no new short stories. Just collections the same stories from a few different books. Even worse are the collections with ONE new story in it. I'm looking at you The Nonesuch and Others coming out on May 31.
Also, about Lumley, I was amazed at how easily he inserted the two Lost Years books between Vamphyri and The Source and then made in make sense on why the characters never referenced anything that happened in them.
And the first three Dreamlands books are some of my favorite books. The Curator rocks.
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - DaveStrorm - 01-18-2009
Wapitikev Wrote:I'd rather have a phoned-in FPW book than any horror novel from any other author alive today...with the possible but unlikely exception for Brian Lumley's ongoing Cthulhu Mythos fiction.
I'll read anything by either Paul or Brian. IMO, hard to go wrong there.
cobalt79 Wrote:Wap, you like Brian Lumley as well!? If I had my wish.....Harry Keogh and his "bits" would go on forever....although they probably do in the Mobius....lol
Agreed. Same with RJ. Although, as others have pointed out, I don't want that to deprive us of new works OUTSIDE those franchises either.
AlvinFox Wrote:One thing I don't like about Brian Lumley is his 'new' short story collections that contain no new short stories. Just collections the same stories from a few different books. Even worse are the collections with ONE new story in it. I'm looking at you The Nonesuch and Others coming out on May 31.
True to a point. The Thin People is in that new collection and I'm pretty sure it was in Fruiting Bodies (which Tor did in a mass market edition). But the other 2 are basically new. One of them is new and the other has only appeared in a World Fantasy Con book. I think until very recently, most of Brian's short stories did not make their way into mass market pubs in the US. I originally read most of his short stories in UK editions. Maybe that explains some of it. :confused: But, yeah, you do have to be careful with shelling out bucks thinking you're getting something new only to find out you've read it all before.
AlvinFox Wrote:And the first three Dreamlands books are some of my favorite books. The Curator rocks.
I also dig the Dreamlands books. The Crow short stories remain my favorites though.
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - Wapitikev - 01-19-2009
AlvinFox Wrote:One thing I don't like about Brian Lumley is his 'new' short story collections that contain no new short stories. Just collections the same stories from a few different books. Even worse are the collections with ONE new story in it. I'm looking at you The Nonesuch and Others coming out on May 31.Like Dave said, I have three trade paperback story collections by Lumley and numerous Cthulhu Mythos anthologies and I still don't have all the stories and novellas contained therein (in Taint and in Hoggopian) only between 1/2 and 2/3...which is more than enough to know that I want the rest.
Also, about Lumley, I was amazed at how easily he inserted the two Lost Years books between Vamphyri and The Source and then made in make sense on why the characters never referenced anything that happened in them.
And the first three Dreamlands books are some of my favorite books. The Curator rocks.
The ones I don't have may not be new stories, but they're new to me
...and they're all together in one easy to find place, now, as well.Come to think of it, that's also the reason that I decided recently not to buy Revelations and Thriller (for Aryans and Absynth and for Interlude at Dwayne's)...they're being collected into Aftershock and Others in a few months.
-Wapitikev
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - Alvin Fox - 01-19-2009
Yeah, Lumley has had a few different 'waves' of short story collections. Every ten years or so he'll come out with new collections. Being the freakish collector that I am, I have fifteen different collections. This doesn't include The Taint, Haggopian or The Nonesuch. Between the three there are eight stories that aren't in a previous collection by Brian Lumley. Three of those eight are in other collections and Synchronicity, or Something has its own chapbook. And I can't find Stilts anywhere.
Dammit. You made me research this and now I want to get them because there's a couple stories that I don't have. Book collecting is a sick sick disease. I'm going to subterranean press to do some preordering now. [/Brian Lumley talk]
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - Wapitikev - 01-19-2009
As a fellow addict, you're welcome.
-Wapitikev
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - bones weep tedium - 01-23-2009
AsMoral Wrote:The slow build to the catastrophic events in NightWorld is like inching ever so slowly to the crest of a steep hill on a great rollercoaster. He is setting the events for the endgame when the reader will be taken down the steepest stomach dropping hill.
But can you build tension to a climax that everyone has already read? :confused:
It might work for anyone knew to the series with the patience to plow through a bazillion RJ books before they crack open Nightworld, but for all the rest of us surely it's more of a slow wind-down than a long build-up? :dontknow:
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - Bluesman Mike Lindner - 01-23-2009
bones weep tedium Wrote:But can you build tension to a climax that everyone has already read? :confused:
It might work for anyone knew to the series with the patience to plow through a bazillion RJ books before they crack open Nightworld, but for all the rest of us surely it's more of a slow wind-down than a long build-up? :dontknow:
I don't think everyone's read NIGHTWORLD, Bones. Got us some new friends here. They're just joining up for the Western Jihad, the New Crusade.
YOW! THAT WAS JUST A METAPHOR, GANG!:dontknow::ooh::hand:
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - Wapitikev - 01-25-2009
bones weep tedium Wrote:But can you build tension to a climax that everyone has already read? :confused:I resemble that remark.
It might work for anyone knew to the series with the patience to plow through a bazillion RJ books before they crack open Nightworld...
-Wapitikev
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - Brian - 01-25-2009
Wapitikev Wrote:I resemble that remark.
-Wapitikev
I'll join that group as well.
Why? (WARNING: RJ and ADVERSARY CYCLE SPOILERS) - Alvin Fox - 01-25-2009
As I read some of this I can't help but think of anyone doing a prequel about anything. George Lucas didn't have to do the Star Wars prequels but... The thing that I've noticed is that the people who really enjoy the new trilogy were the ones who've never seen the original trilogy before.
I don't know where I'm going with this anymore. I'm tired. Make of it what you will.