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Lorelei - Kenji - 04-12-2005
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:I tried to find the info, but got "Document Not Found." If memory serves, the IJN built a couple of very large, for the time, submarines equipped to launch floatplanes. Might that be the story?
I guess this is it. Check it.
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=53720272/K=Hawaii+Japanese+submarine/v=2/SID=w/l=NSR/R=5/SIG=12tbl0h8m/EXP=1113401111/*-http%3A//www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-03-20-wwiisub-found_x.htm?csp=34
Lorelei - Bluesman Mike Lindner - 04-12-2005
Kenji Wrote:I guess this is it. Check it.
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=53720272/K=Hawaii+Japanese+submarine/v=2/SID=w/l=NSR/R=5/SIG=12tbl0h8m/EXP=1113401111/*-http%3A//www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-03-20-wwiisub-found_x.htm?csp=34
Again, "Document Not Found." I'm starting to smell conspiracy. :eek:
Lorelei - Keith the Elder - 04-12-2005
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Again, "Document Not Found." I'm starting to smell conspiracy. :eek:
Ths link worked for me, unlike previous link. I copied it fer ya here
Japanese WWII submarine found near Hawaii
HONOLULU (AP) — The wreckage of a large World War II-era Japanese submarine has been found by researchers in waters off Hawaii.
A research team from the University of Hawaii discovered the I-401 submarine Thursday during test dives off Oahu.
"We thought it was rocks at first, it was so huge," said Terry Kerby, pilot of the research craft that found the vessel. "But the sides of it kept going up and up and up, three and four stories tall. It's a leviathan down there, a monster."
The submarine is from the I-400 Sensuikan Toku class of subs, the largest built before the nuclear ballistic missile submarines of the 1960s.
They were 400 feet long and nearly 40 feet high and could carry a crew of 144. The submarines were designed to carry three "fold-up" bombers that could be assembled for flight within minutes.
Kerby said the main hull is sitting upright and is in good shape. The I-401 numbers are clearly visible on the sides, and the anti-aircraft guns are in almost perfect condition, he said.
An I-400 and I-401 were captured at sea a week after the Japanese surrendered in 1945. Their mission — which was never completed — reportedly was to use the aircraft to drop rats and insects infected with bubonic plague, cholera, typhus and other diseases on U.S. cities.
When the bacteriological bombs could not be prepared in time, the mission was reportedly changed to bomb the Panama Canal.
Both submarines were ordered to sail to Pearl Harbor and were deliberately sunk later, partly because Russian scientists were demanding access to them.
The submarine found Thursday is the second Japanese vessel discovered off Oahu by the Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory. In 2002, researchers found the wreckage of a much smaller Japanese sub that was sunk on Dec. 7, 1941, off Pearl Harbor.
Lorelei - Bluesman Mike Lindner - 04-12-2005
Keith the Elder Wrote:Ths link worked for me, unlike previous link. I copied it fer ya here
Japanese WWII submarine found near Hawaii
HONOLULU (AP) — The wreckage of a large World War II-era Japanese submarine has been found by researchers in waters off Hawaii.
A research team from the University of Hawaii discovered the I-401 submarine Thursday during test dives off Oahu.
"We thought it was rocks at first, it was so huge," said Terry Kerby, pilot of the research craft that found the vessel. "But the sides of it kept going up and up and up, three and four stories tall. It's a leviathan down there, a monster."
The submarine is from the I-400 Sensuikan Toku class of subs, the largest built before the nuclear ballistic missile submarines of the 1960s.
They were 400 feet long and nearly 40 feet high and could carry a crew of 144. The submarines were designed to carry three "fold-up" bombers that could be assembled for flight within minutes.
Kerby said the main hull is sitting upright and is in good shape. The I-401 numbers are clearly visible on the sides, and the anti-aircraft guns are in almost perfect condition, he said.
An I-400 and I-401 were captured at sea a week after the Japanese surrendered in 1945. Their mission — which was never completed — reportedly was to use the aircraft to drop rats and insects infected with bubonic plague, cholera, typhus and other diseases on U.S. cities.
When the bacteriological bombs could not be prepared in time, the mission was reportedly changed to bomb the Panama Canal.
Both submarines were ordered to sail to Pearl Harbor and were deliberately sunk later, partly because Russian scientists were demanding access to them.
The submarine found Thursday is the second Japanese vessel discovered off Oahu by the Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory. In 2002, researchers found the wreckage of a much smaller Japanese sub that was sunk on Dec. 7, 1941, off Pearl Harbor.
Good info, Keith--thanks. The French Navy buiilt, betwen the Wars, a big sub called SOURCOUF with--dig this--a double 8 inch turret.
Lorelei - Kenji - 04-13-2005
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Again, "Document Not Found." I'm starting to smell conspiracy. :eek:
Oh! That's......maybe it's curse of Black Wind! :eek: :p
Lorelei - Alan - 04-13-2005
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Good info, Keith--thanks. The French Navy buiilt, betwen the Wars, a big sub called SOURCOUF with--dig this--a double 8 inch turret.
They must have been able to hang some really large white flags off of the barrels.
Lorelei - Bluesman Mike Lindner - 04-17-2005
Alan Wrote:They must have been able to hang some really large white flags off of the barrels.
I believe that mighty sub was lost in an accidental collision at sea before your idea could have become reality. =What= were they =thinking=? A submarine in a surface gun duel with...what? Even an armed merchant ship could put a hole in a WW2 sub's pressure hull, and then there'd be new dancers on Fiddler's Green. But for the height of folly, the Royal Navy took the cake. They built a sub--forget if it was during WW1 or between the wars--that mounted a 12" cannon that could be fired =underwater=! Man, I'd love to see a photo of a test firing!