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The Prisoner - Mick C. - 04-23-2005
Wonderful show, one of my favorites as a kid and now. It was originally released in America as the summer replacement for the Jackie Gleason variety show, which must have caught a few of that show's regular viewers by surprise.
McGoohan is fun to watch in anything. He was great as Edward Longshanks in Braveheart, he also did a cameo as an earlier Phantom in the underrated film of Lee Falk's The Phantom.
He also played a secret agent, whose real name was unknown (possibly John Drake?) in Ice Station Zebra, Howard Hughes' favorite flick. Different authors and all, but in my mind I always thought you could make a case that was John Drake in Ice Station Zebra, and the disgust he felt for the way things turned out in that film led him to resign, and become The Prisoner.
You're in for some enjoyable (and bizarre) viewing, Kenji.
I think the title was Karoshi or Koroshi - they took the last two episodes and edited them together into one film.
The Prisoner - Biggles - 04-23-2005
maxplay Wrote:Secret Agent (or Danger Man) was the first, successful British series to break into the American television market. McGoohan left the show to do The Prisoner, which he wrote, produced, directed and starred in (sometimes under pseudonym, according to IMDb, because of the sheer number of credits to his name). He was born in the US, but raised in Ireland.
Specifically, Long Island!
The Prisoner - Maggers - 04-23-2005
Biggles Wrote:Specifically, Long Island!
Not quite, at least according to IMDB.com. They say McGoohan was born in Astoria, NY, which is in Queens, one of the 5 boroughs of New York City. So McGoohan is, technically, a fellow New Yorker!
The Prisoner - Biggles - 04-23-2005
Maggers Wrote:Not quite, at least according to IMDB.com. They say McGoohan was born in Astoria, NY, which is in Queens, one of the 5 boroughs of New York City. So McGoohan is, technically, a fellow New Yorker!
:confused: Isn't Queens on LI, or is that the Bronx? I must confess (something I tell my clients NEVER to do) that I'm not real clear on the Boroughs of NYC.
The Prisoner - Flinx - 04-23-2005
In the late '80's DC Comics did a 4 issue mini-series that was a sequel to The Prisoner TV series.
Below is the blurb about it from ComicBase, a software program for recording your comic collection.
Possible spoilers for Kenji.
If you were fortunate enough to catch The Prisoner on BBC television, you already know that it was a remarkable series—possibly the finest television series ever. In its self-limited run, it told the story of a secret agent (possibly Frank Drake from the old Secret Agent Man series) who wanted out. Instead, he was kidnapped and taken to a strange island town called simply, “the Village.” There, identities are replaced by numbers—and the agent was subjected to endless mind games in an effort to gain information from him (we never find out which side wants the information). However, the agent, now known only as “Number Six” resisted all attempts to break him, eventually fulfilling a promise not only to escape, but to destroy the Village. Afterward, he simply disappeared.
This series serves as the “official” sequel to The Prisoner. It begins years later, as British intelligence discovers the whereabouts of the now-abandoned Village….
Flinx
The Prisoner - Maggers - 04-24-2005
Biggles Wrote::confused: Isn't Queens on LI, or is that the Bronx? I must confess (something I tell my clients NEVER to do) that I'm not real clear on the Boroughs of NYC.
5 boroughs comprise New York City - Manhattan, the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.
The Bronx is north of Manhattan; Staten Island is south of Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens are east of Manhattan.
Only one borough is on the mainland, i.e.. the Bronx. Queens and Brooklyn are on the western tip of Long Island but are considered to be New York, not Long Island. Staten Island and Manhattan Island are, obviously, islands. Hence, the derogatory term "bridge and tunnel crowd" refers to folks from the boroughs, as they have to take bridges and tunnels to get to Manhattan, where the streets are paved with gold.
Long Island is comprised of two counties. Nassau County is the western end and Suffolk County is the eastern end. Monroe is in Nassau; the Hamptons and the house where Mel and her husband lived are in Suffolk County.
No doubt you're probably even more confused now.
The Prisoner - maxplay - 04-24-2005
Maggers Wrote:No doubt you're probably even more confused now.
No, actually you've pictured it in my mind very well. One of these days I'm going to have to see the NYC area.
The Prisoner - Keith the Elder - 04-24-2005
Great show,. My daughter gave me the entire set las year.
It was one of the best shows EVER.
K the e
The Prisoner - Biggles - 04-25-2005
Maggers Wrote:5 boroughs comprise New York City - Manhattan, the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.
The Bronx is north of Manhattan; Staten Island is south of Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens are east of Manhattan.
Only one borough is on the mainland, i.e.. the Bronx. Queens and Brooklyn are on the western tip of Long Island but are considered to be New York, not Long Island. Staten Island and Manhattan Island are, obviously, islands. Hence, the derogatory term "bridge and tunnel crowd" refers to folks from the boroughs, as they have to take bridges and tunnels to get to Manhattan, where the streets are paved of gold.
Long Island is comprised of two counties. Nassau County is the western end and Suffolk County is the eastern end. Monroe is in Nassau; the Hamptons and the house where Mel and her husband lived are in Suffolk County.
No doubt you're probably even more confused now.
So basically, he was born ON Long Island, but not IN Long Island (but rather NYC)? I guess I always found it confusing as well that a city could be composed of boroughs. In PA, where I grew up, cities and boroughs were separate types of entities. I don't believe that any cities were composed of boroughs.
The Prisoner - Maggers - 04-25-2005
Biggles Wrote:So basically, he was born ON Long Island, but not IN Long Island (but rather NYC)? I guess I always found it confusing as well that a city could be composed of boroughs. In PA, where I grew up, cities and boroughs were separate types of entities. I don't believe that any cities were composed of boroughs.
No one born in Queens would consider himself from Long Island. Two distinctly different places. Nuh uh. Queens is NYC. Long Island is NOT NYC. Although Long Island accents now are suspiciously like old Brooklyn and Queens accents because so many families migrated east and moved from over crowded Brooklyn and Queens to Long Island, the suburbs.
That's the difference...Queens is the City; Long Island is the burbs. Big difference.
Another difference, people vacation on Long Island (think the Hamptons); no one vacations in Queens.
Although, folks who can only afford to take the subway to the ocean will go to the Rockaways for the day, which is the ocean front section of Queens. Not the greatest beach by a long shot, but if you can't afford anything else, it's just fine.