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Actor For Jack - crimsontarheel - 07-18-2004
i know he has been mentioned before but i think he would be a good fit for several reasons
Actor For Jack - Lisa - 07-18-2004
Ken Valentine Wrote:Wales and Scotland, are two vestigial countries separate from England . . . sorta. Welsh and Scots are British, but not English.
Umm, yeah, I know that. That's why I said he had a BRITISH accent and not English. (He's played characters with both English and Welsh accents.)
Still have no idea what Biggles was talkin' bout. I think he's just trying to bug me.
Lisa
Actor For Jack - Biggles - 07-18-2004
Ken Valentine Wrote:Wales and Scotland, are two vestigial countries separate from England . . . sorta. Welsh and Scots are British, but not English.
It would be similar -- but not exactly comparable -- to say that Canadians and Mexicans are Americans, but not United Statesians.
(Now I've got her REALLY confused. Heh.
Ken V.
Maybe the best way to explain is that what are now the British Isles were inhabited by various Celtic tribes at the time of the Roman Conquest. Among these were the Picts, in present day Scotland. The Romans built Hadrian's Wall to keep the Picts from surging Southward into Britainnia, the area they had conquered (modern-day England). The Romans first conquered, then assimilated the British tribes south of Hadrian's Wall into their empire. When the empire was imploding in the Fifth Century A.D., the Romans withdrew, leaving the British to the less than tender mercies of the Germanic tribes from modern-day Denmark and the Low Countries of Northern Europe. These tribes were the Jutes, Angles and Saxons. Over a span of a couple hundred years, the Anglo-Saxon tribes pushed the British tribes West into Cornwall and Wales (ironically "Welsh" is derived from a Saxon word for foreigner). British also fled across the Channel to Britainny and Normandy. "England" is not named for its original inhabitants, but for the Angles--Germanic invaders. The Normans (who were supposedly British, although they may have intermarried with Norsemen in the intervening centuries, and certainly with Franks as well) invaded England in 1066, defeated the last Saxon (and last "English") king, Harold, at the Battle of Hastings, and the rest is History.
Thus "English" is not the same as "British". Modern Brits can trace their roots to Celtic, Germanic, French, Norse, and Roman origins.
BTW, this all happened during the "Dark Ages", so some of the geneology may be open to conjecture. The Scots, Irish and Welsh have been around the whole time though.
Actor For Jack - Biggles - 07-18-2004
Lisa Wrote:Umm, yeah, I know that. That's why I said he had a BRITISH accent and not English. (He's played characters with both English and Welsh accents.)
Still have no idea what Biggles was talkin' bout. I think he's just trying to bug me.
Lisa
My Dear Queen,
My experience is that I don't have to try to bug you--it just occurs naturally. To be more precise, though, I was trying more to cornfuse you.
Actor For Jack - Ken Valentine - 07-18-2004
nijimeijer Wrote:I think he's a bit on the older side.
Only four years. And it would take very little make-up to correct that. If any.
Ken V.
Actor For Jack - Ken Valentine - 07-18-2004
jimbow8 Wrote:How about Ron Eldard?
I like!
Ken V.
Actor For Jack - Ken Valentine - 07-18-2004
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Not bad! But maybe just a tad too handsome for the way Jack is described.
I don't know Mike. 'Bout the only facial description I can recall is Jack's crooked smile, and in THE TOMB, where Jack looks in the mirror and notes that his teeth could be a bit whiter and straighter.
Jack is recognizable, which is why he takes pains not to be noticed.
Jim's photo says "Jack" to me.
And for a movie, Jack would have to have an image that you could imagine Gia would find attractive. They would have to look like they fit together.
Ken V.
Actor For Jack - Ken Valentine - 07-18-2004
Biggles Wrote:My Dear Queen,
My experience is that I don't have to try to bug you--it just occurs naturally. To be more precise, though, I was trying more to cornfuse you.
Well . . . Your statement, and Lisa's reply sure confused me!
Ken V.
Actor For Jack - Ken Valentine - 07-18-2004
Biggles Wrote:BTW, this all happened during the "Dark Ages", so some of the geneology may be open to conjecture.
Another thing which helps to confuse geneologists is changes in the spelling of names.
Kaye's maiden name was Viggars. It had been traced back in England to the 12th century, but spelling changes made it impossible go back further with any certainty.
Going back even further, some Greek explorers "discovered" the British Isles about 360 B.C.. They were looking for land in the West. They went to Ireland, and were told that there was land farther west. They made it to Iceland, and were told that there was land still farther west. And according to the chronicles, it seems that they were stopped by ice almost within sight of Greenland.
Fascinating subject . . . history.
Ken V.
Actor For Jack - Ken Valentine - 07-18-2004
crimsontarheel Wrote:i know he has been mentioned before but i think he would be a good fit for several reasons
A lot of people would make a good fit -- that's why this topic is so much fun.
And welcome to the board!
Ken V.