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the keep - iambear - 04-30-2004
I just finished the book and I have now just finished watching the movie ...
The first thing that comes to my mind is that so much of the book was lost....
almost too much.I think that if I didnt read the book first, I would have hated this movie.but then again, that little fact could also be the reason I dont care for it. most movies are never as good as the book, and that was one hell of a good book
It is not the worst movie I have ever seen, but I am just too dissapointed in it to give it any praise 
not quite the horrific car accident that I thought it would be..... more like a fender-bender... take a quick look and be on your way LOL
am I wrong ??? what do you think ????
the keep - jimbow8 - 04-30-2004
I've said before (and I think I am the only one) that I kinda like the movie. I like the atmosphere and I like Jurgen Prochnow and Gabriel Byrne. Ian McKellan....enough said! Do I think it is a great movie? No, but is far from the worst movie (or even the bottom 100) that I have ever seen. Is it exactly like the book? No, but what movie is? The Lord of the Rings movie trilogy left out countless critical points from the books, yet those are still great movies. No, I am not comparing the Keep (movie) to LOTR (movie), just making an analogy. A book is a book; a movie is a movie. It is for this reason (as I stated in a separate post) that I am not sure that Black Wind would translate well to film.
the keep - iambear - 05-01-2004
then what would be the worst movie you have seen ????
the keep - jimbow8 - 05-01-2004
I have what I like to call my Triumvirate of Worst Movies. These have been considered worst for so long that I don't think the Triumvirate could change (even if I possibly see a worse movie). They are: The River's Edge; The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover; and Drop Dead Fred.
the keep - Biggles - 05-01-2004
jimbow8 Wrote:I have what I like to call my Triumvirate of Worst Movies. These have been considered worst for so long that I don't think the Triumvirate could change (even if I possibly see a worse movie). They are: The River's Edge; The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover; and Drop Dead Fred.
I have never seen any of those, so I guess I'm lucky!
I have a lot of favorite movies (favourite for you Brits and Canucks out there), but I hesitate to try to rank them:
"Monty Python and the Holy Grail" (perhaps the greatest movie of all time, literally bitch-slapping pretenders like "Citizen Kane" and "Birth of a Nation". Phtew! I fart in your general direction.)
"Casablanca" (not only a great movie, but combine this with a good bottle of red wine and...."He shoots, he scores!")
"The Maltese Falcon" (Bogey, Lorre, Greenstreet, Elisha Cook---what else could you possibly need?)
"Spartacus" (maybe Kirk Douglas' greatest movie, but certainly his most inspirational)
"Tora, Tora, Tora" (the best theatrical rendition of Pearl Harbor ever, which unlike "Midway", at least had the Japanese speaking their native tongue)
"Battle of Britain" (saw it first run in '69. All-star cast, Spanish Air Force ME-109s and HE-111s, accurate depiction of events. One of the greatest air war movies ever).
"All Quiet on the Western Front" (The original. Still amazing more than 70 years later. I read "Im Westen nichts neues" (auf Deutsch) back in high school for my German 3 class. The movie is true to the spirit of the book and times in which it was written. Great anti-war film against a war that never should have been fought.)
"The Lighthorsemen" (hard to find, but wonderful movie about the last cavalry charge of WWI, by a regiment of ANZAC mounted infrantry against Turkish fortifications at Beersheba, Palestine. AWE-freakin'-SOME)
"Nosferatu" (Again, the original, with Max Schreck.)
More thoughts later, but what do "yinz" think?
the keep - Peter - 05-01-2004
I most definitely agree that The Holy Grail is an utter, absolute, to the Nth degree CLASSIC! Apart from anything else there are just so many quotable lines in it. I only have to say friends in the pub "And after the spanking?" and I can guarantee falling about laughter. Mind you, we get some funny looks, and if you want to know what the next line is, watch the film!
the keep - Biggles - 05-01-2004
Peter Wrote:I most definitely agree that The Holy Grail is an utter, absolute, to the Nth degree CLASSIC! Apart from anything else there are just so many quotable lines in it. I only have to say friends in the pub "And after the spanking?" and I can guarantee falling about laughter. Mind you, we get some funny looks, and if you want to know what the next line is, watch the film!
"Naughty, Naughty Newt!"
the keep - Biggles - 05-01-2004
Peter Wrote:I most definitely agree that The Holy Grail is an utter, absolute, to the Nth degree CLASSIC! Apart from anything else there are just so many quotable lines in it. I only have to say friends in the pub "And after the spanking?" and I can guarantee falling about laughter. Mind you, we get some funny looks, and if you want to know what the next line is, watch the film!
Do you remember "Doctor in the House"? We saw it here in the States on PBS. DAMN would I give my left (censored by department of testicular references) for a DVD of those episodes. FPW would have laughed his @$$ off too. Remember that show Effy?
the keep - Bluesman Mike Lindner - 05-02-2004
Biggles, for some reason, I just can't find how to post new threads. I'm sure I'm overlooking something very simple, very basic,something I've done before, but I just can't find it. My mind has been shakey since last week, when I was slammed against a wall after tackling a runaway elephant that was charging a school bus which, ah, the driver had a savage migraine headache, which would not have been so bad, except, well, he was high on angel dust, which he got from, ah, James Brown in exchange for... Well, it's a long story, but I'm sure you get the drift. Please, clue me in--what am I doing wrong here?
the keep - thisisatest - 05-02-2004
jimbow8 Wrote:I have what I like to call my Triumvirate of Worst Movies. These have been considered worst for so long that I don't think the Triumvirate could change (even if I possibly see a worse movie). They are: The River's Edge; The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover; and Drop Dead Fred.
Steve D
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover is one of the best movies around. Great cast, great story, great ending, great soundtrack. And how you could put Drop Dead Fred (a truly bad movie) next to CTWL makes me plotz. May Helen Mirren spank you but good!
And my vote for worse movie: Picking Up the Pieces. After Like Water for Chocolate and A Walk in the Clouds, I don't know how Director/Writer/Actor Alfonso Arau could make this laughless comedy (although Woody Allen has a few good lines). I recommend this bad movie for viewing just so you can see how a bad movie can be made by a great director. And please everyone, watch CTWL and let me know if you think it's a bad movie. My bad...I mean, good taste has been called into question.